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Poster: snori Date: Oct 10, 2009 9:12am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Best (and worst) guests

Any views on other musicians appearing on stage with the band ? I guess many would plump for Branford, and I enjoy hearing Carlos with them, but I'd like to check out some shows with other guests no matter how much of a part they played.

Additional request, same as above but with JGB.

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Poster: elbow1126 Date: Oct 10, 2009 9:32am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Best (and worst) guests

LIA and Earl thoroughly covered guests in these threads. I probably would vote for Branford and Duane Allman.

http://www.archive.org/iathreads/post-view.php?id=253296

http://www.archive.org/iathreads/post-view.php?id=253261

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Poster: high flow Date: Oct 10, 2009 12:26pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Best (and worst) guests

Thanks for the facts scientist, but I think snori was asking for opinions.....:).

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Poster: elbow1126 Date: Oct 10, 2009 12:26pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Best (and worst) guests

I think I provided both and it appeared that snori was appreciative. Whilst I love to think that my opinions are regarded as facts, I am sure that others do not think this to be the case.

btw, your comment about Joan Baez. Fact. My opinion about Ornette Coleman is that i wish they had picked different tunes for him to play. I think he could have been really interesting in more freeform jams instead of Stella Blue.

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Poster: high flow Date: Oct 10, 2009 12:39pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Best (and worst) guests

Hey man - Just breaking your stones. Snori was absolutely appreciative, no doubt in my mind.

However, the best/worst subject-line made me think perhaps he/she was looking for more than just a list. So, I gave him/her a list sprinkled with opinions.

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Poster: elbow1126 Date: Oct 10, 2009 12:44pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Best (and worst) guests

I know. Just returning the favor.

I figured that those threads had both facts and some opinions.

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Poster: high flow Date: Oct 10, 2009 12:52pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Best (and worst) guests

Funny, I thought they played TOO with Ornette.

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Poster: snori Date: Oct 10, 2009 10:14am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Best (and worst) guests

Wow, that is thorough. Plenty to look through and all with links. My gratitude to Earl and LIA. Still like to hear suggestions on the JGB front.

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Poster: skuzzlebutt Date: Oct 10, 2009 9:21pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Best (and worst) guests

There are a few exceptions (Branford), but for the most part I think the shows which feature guests are unremarkable.

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Poster: johnnyonthespot Date: Oct 10, 2009 2:31pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Best (and worst) guests

to me the whole guest thing is a nice gesture and all but being that they never rehearsed with these people they ended up having to make it something that lends itself to something simple and sloppy. That's just my opinion. I mean how much more generic does it get than something like that Stephen Stills thing, or can anyone here Crosby's contributions on the shows that he supposedly played with them? Funny but it seems the studio collaborations Jerry did seem to work much better than the live experience of the guest jam thing.

I go hands down with Branford because it was a true musical collaboration/contribution like real jazz as opposed to NFA/Johnn B Goode etc ( although I dig Cippollina playing NFA with them ).

I put Hornsby in the same category but the times I saw him play with them he was in the band in all respects not a guest. Then there are the guest drum thing - allways cool to me to have even MORE stuff going on back there.

One cool one I saw that NEVER gets mention is the 2-27-90 Mardi Gras show where Beauseleil ( sp? ) opened. Michael Doucett playing with them on Iko sounds pretty cool, better than the Nevilles I think.

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Poster: William Tell Date: Oct 11, 2009 3:49am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Best (and worst) guests

Yeah, I was always expecting big things but after the first few, I then felt they were always much better in theory than in practice...too "busy" with too much "simple" straight up exchange of leads, etc., etc., without anything really special happening in my view...sounds overly harsh, but I never pull out an early era "guest show" to play for anyone, except JJ...

EDIT: ij-it!

This post was modified by William Tell on 2009-10-11 10:49:17

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Poster: user unknown Date: Oct 10, 2009 10:13am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Best (and worst) guests

Branford and Hornsby

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Poster: Diamondhead Date: Oct 10, 2009 11:21am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Best (and worst) guests

I just happened to listen to the 03-25-72 concert where they backed Bo Diddley. Un-fucking-real - the sound was a revelation to me, or maybe just a reawakened memory. They were a boogie band and a rhythm machine then and backed him up great. And he was the godfather of rocknroll. I made myself listen to all of it, even the boring parts, and I could hear so many upbeat riffs that ended up in space jams in later years. I guess Bobby was listening real good. I sorta wished they'd kept this part of them after 76. It's on a DP. Or, listen to a few songs on an mp3 from somewhere.

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Poster: high flow Date: Oct 10, 2009 12:20pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Best (and worst) guests

Etta James, Tower of Power, Ornette Coleman and those folks clapping along with Ollin Arageed on Egypt '78. Huey Lewis, Hamza al Din and Gary Duncan. Ken Kesey. Most of these were good.

Joan Baez was bad.

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Poster: banditos33 Date: Oct 10, 2009 10:46am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Best (and worst) guests

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1DChW7LtosY Check out 3:55-4:05 she is feeling it

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Poster: ganges Date: Oct 10, 2009 11:25am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Best (and worst) guests

JGB with Clarence Clemons, this is one example, an amazing 2nd set.

http://www.thejerrysite.com/shows/show/1936
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gc3ohWI9Ic0&;feature=player_embedded

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Poster: stratocaster Date: Oct 11, 2009 8:48am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Best (and worst) guests

Garcia rocked that September run...but do check out the next JGB show, 09-16-1989, also with Clarence Clemons, one of the best JGB shows out there...

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Poster: Styrofoam Cueball Date: Oct 10, 2009 10:38am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Best (and worst) guests

Janis and Pig's duet on 'Lovelight' cannot be beat.

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Poster: Phlesh Wound Date: Oct 10, 2009 4:59pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Best (and worst) guests

Worst has to be Wayne Ceballos 3/8/70. Painfully bad.

They released a JGB show where Bruce Hornsby sits in, 1991-11-09, as Pure Jerry #7.

This post was modified by Phlesh Wound on 2009-10-10 23:59:12

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Poster: snori Date: Oct 11, 2009 3:15am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Best (and worst) guests

I have that CD, and Hornsby fits in well, soloing and sitting back. So I guess he would be my preferred guest with JGB.

Thanks to everyone who made suggestions - they will take some time to work through. Can anyone supply a date for Huey Lewis guesting ?

I enjoyed the Etta James (and Tower of Power horns ?) more than I thought I would. But so far I'm still leaning towards Carlos and Branford.